What the Heck Did I Just Buy? Delrin H194

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What the Heck Did I Just Buy? Delrin H194

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I picked up a Slim Trapper in jigged delrin and a tang stamp of (1st line) HERITAGE (2nd line) SCHRADE+ (3rd line) U.S.A.; reverse is stamped H194. No shield.

I paid an OK price - plan to carry and use, not as an investment. Is this an "end of days" knife assembled in the factory or offshore from leftover parts that SMKW bought?

Thank You!

*seller's pic*
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I would call it end-of-days. The Heritage folding knives had smooth genuine bone covers.
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I am OK with that and the seller had more than 1 in stock, which is a pretty strong hint that its not a rare, one of a kind, bargain :wink:

P.S. The seller did not mis-represent it.
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Do not know much about the Heritage Collection - but I asked the internet and Copilot if they did and Copilot "states" they did make a Heritage Collection in Delrin - in Sawcut - this doesn't look like Sawcut to me -

Did Schrade Knives Make a Heritage Collection in Delrin Handle Material ~ ?

Copilot ~ Answer

Yes, Schrade did produce a Heritage Collection with Delrin handle material
. Delrin, also known by Schrade as "Saw Cut Delrin" or "Staglon," was used for some of their knife handles
. This material is known for its durability and lightweight properties, making it a popular choice for pocket knives
. Too be taken with a Grain of Salt ~ :wink:
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Was staring at this Schrade Farmers Knife a day or more ago - Being offered for $500.00 - Pattern 730 - Pretty example of some of the more Valuable and Higher Quality Made Schrade's ~ Farmers are Highly Sought and aren't usually in such good shape as this one is ~ Used for Horticulture and Agriculture around the Farm, Tasks from Grafting Fruit Trees to Cutting Rope and Twine ~ Pocket Knives Your Great Grandpa would of owned ~
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::hmm:: Interesting bail.
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Sagebrush,
I have a note from Dave Swinden from June 1996 that mentions a new set of Heritage knives all stamped with the HNNN and the H194 is one of them. I'm looking for more info and will post the memo.

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Well, Your H194 is not standard issue for sure.

Below is a copy of the Production Order
FROM: DEBBIE BRADFORD DATE: July 9, 1996
NEW ITEM LISTING
CATALOG#: Hl94 PRODUCT FAMILY: Western Market
DESCRIPTION: 194 pattern w/burgundy sawcut handles , polished brass bolsters , polished brass
handle shield, "Heritage" tang stamp, blade etch "Everlastingly Sharp", sis blade. For Western
Market .
CONTENTS: H194 Bulk NEW
Re-Order pts.
Gift Box Hl94 NEW
Brochure NEW
Poly bag 7220004
UPC REQ: Yes
PRICE: DIST:
RETAIL:
FILM REQ: VARIETY: WHOLESALE:
EST QUANTITY: 1000 REQ. SHIP DATE: 12-1-96

Best guess is a EOD special.
Handle does look to be Delrin. Cant tell for sure.





And the Announcement


TO: DISTRIBUTION
FROM: Jim ECONOMOS
DATE: JUNE 6, 1996
SUBJECT: NEW HERITAGE LINE

Following are the details to the complete new line of knives for the Western market.
+ Name of the line will be Heritage
+ Tang stamp will be similar to the old Schrade Heritage - the only difference will be
dropping the N. Y. from the third line.
+ Knife numbers will be determined this week for pile side tang stamps.
+ All blades will be stainless
+ Blade etch wi11 be "Everlastingly Sharp"
+ All shields will be the same oval shape as Skoal.
Patterns are:

48 BEARHEAD SINGLE BLADE 104
89 W/LEATHERBORE 34
98 194
5OT LB7
296Y PH2 WI STAG

The 296Y will be smooth yellow handle, smooth nickel silver bolsters and an antiqued brass shield.
+ The PH2 will have natural stag handles
+ The LB7 and SOT will use burgundy sawcut handles with the oval shield. Bolsters will be
brass.

All remaining pocket knife patterns will have brass threaded bolsters and burgundy sawcut handles
with the oval shield.
+ The color selected for the burgundy is Pantone 299
+ Artwork for the shields will be ready this week.
+ Delivery will be 250 matched, serialized sets by November 1.
+ Regular open stock delivery w/o serialization will be January 1, 1997.
Please review these specs. We will have a meeting early in the week of 6/10 to discuss and
answer any questions.
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that's all very interesting "thanks for sharing" ~ I still have a lot to learn about Schrade for I know very little about them, even though I've had more than a few "old timers" and even an Uncle Henry ~ have a wonderful day ~
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Because I do not want it to seem I am accusing the seller of impropriety...

It is a safe bet that the knife was assembled after the original Heritage run, probably at or after the end of Camillus' existence. The seller did not indicate it is anything special, only noted the tang stamps, model, and handle material.

I bought it for what I think is a fair price for a user in what appears to be very good condition (although knife prices shot up as much as ammo in the last few years). It also appeals to me visually, a consideration since I tend to carry and use my pocket knives daily.

A stainless knife won't require as much care as my carbon pocket knives and hopefully I will have better luck with the Schrade stainless than I have with Case SS, which seems to dull if you wave it through the air.

Thank you all for your responses and information!
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There were more than one type of Heritage branded, special edition knives and sets that Schrade made over the years. Some with bone scales and some with delrin. The 1997 Heritage set is shown below in it's wooden display, which includes the H-194. All 194s (Old Timers and such) were single blade knives. Your knife is modeled after the Old Timer 94OT, with two blades. I can't say where the scales came from. The two blade, 4 1/8" trapper with yellow scales is a H-296. I managed to collect all of these except the fixed blade, stag handled knife.
You have a really nice edc/parts/end of days Schrade knife there. Congrats!
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Re: What the Heck Did I Just Buy? Delrin H194

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Whelp, its not exactly the knife I bought. The seller grabbed one of the batch of as-new knives they are selling for pics, which happened to be the one with the heritage blade. I received a non-Chinese delrin Schrade + Trapper, which was the goal.
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andylate wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:59 pm Whelp, its not exactly the knife I bought. The seller grabbed one of the batch of as-new knives they are selling for pics, which happened to be the one with the heritage blade. I received a non-Chinese delrin Schrade + Trapper, which was the goal.

You have a great knife with a great ancestry. If I didn't already have knives coming out of my ears, I'd like to have one like yours. It's collector value may not be high, but it's a unique Schrade that's really nice. Enjoy!
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