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Fleam

Post by tjmurphy » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:48 pm

This is a G. Gregory fleam, horn handles, chipped but still solid. Don't know the age, but pretty old - Civil War? Let's see some more.
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Re: Fleam

Post by smiling-knife » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:01 pm

Nice Fleam. Probably from about that time. Here is another set. :) s-k

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Re: Fleam

Post by tjmurphy » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:05 pm

Nice one S-K. They look exactly alike except you have one more blade and still have polish on the blades. Did you happen to see Orvet's comments in Knife Lore - Old and Obscure Brands?
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Re: Fleam

Post by FRJ » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:35 am

Here are two Borwick fleams. Goin's states Borwick England 1791-1860 with very little history of owners named Borwick.

I've never owned a fleam in my life, I thought they were mildly interesting because they were of a cutlery nature.
Most seemed kind of rough. Not these. These are very nicely made as are others in this thread that I just found.
No spring on these. Blades freely but firmly, rotate on a pivot. Polished horn. Brass backcover.

In two posts. First is the larger of the two. 3 1/2". ........ second fleam is 3".

Thanks for looking.
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Re: Fleam

Post by FRJ » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:38 am

Second Borwick fleam. 3 inches.
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Re: Fleam

Post by FRJ » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:40 am

The two Borwick fleams.
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Re: Fleam

Post by SteelMyHeart85420 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:23 am

I clicked on this because I didn't know what a fleam was...now I've seen pics, I still don't know what it is

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Re: Fleam

Post by bestgear » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:53 am

Beautiful old pieces of cutlery but I'm with you SMH, are they carpentry tools or some kind of scribes? Help us out Joe ::tu::
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Re: Fleam

Post by Steve Warden » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:37 am

It's a lancet used primarily by veterinarians for bloodletting. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleam
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Re: Fleam

Post by bestgear » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:40 am

Ahh, thank you Steve!
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Re: Fleam

Post by wlf » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:29 pm

And you know they have to be pretty old.

Beautiful horn handles on some rare pieces Joe the knife miner.
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Re: Fleam

Post by FRJ » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:41 pm

wlf wrote: Beautiful horn handles on some rare pieces Joe the knife miner.
:lol: I grin ........... I laugh .......

Thanks Lyle, and others who commented. ::tu::

These are veterinary tools as I understand them. Blood letting. I'm glad we're past that. ::paranoid::
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Re: Fleam

Post by LongBlade » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:52 am

I missed you sneak these in here Joe - Nice :D - they are in great shape and Borwick made many of them ::tu:: ::tu:: ... I have a similar horn handled fleam but no makers mark though it looks exactly the same as your bigger lighter horn handled fleam (but mine has a few bug bites in the horn) - same exact birds-eye pivot pin too for the blades - and no springs to worry about given they were all friction folders - My fleam was a local score from an estate and was supposedly carried in the Civil War by one of their ancestors who was an officer in the Union army and part of the CT regiment (there were other Civil War items from the same individual) -- Fleams also came in all brass handled models and others were made with a spring action mechanism - don't have one of the latter but essentially you hit a lock which releases a spring-loaded blade which subsequently hits the target (usually some type of infection or boil :shock: - I'll leave the further details to your imagination but do believe all fleams were more for veterinarian use than for humans as was noted earlier in this thread and especially for horses :) ... The first time I handled a spring-loaded fleam I almost hit the lock when the seller warned me to be careful - if I had hit it before his warning I would have had first hand experience as to how it worked the hard way :lol: . . Nothing like a little blood letting to relieve your blood pressure :lol: ......

Interestingly I have heard old fly tiers from the mid 1800s used fleams for cutting thread etc and as a fly tying tool ::nod:: ... in those days fly tiers tools were often repurposed items and scissors were usually from their wive's sewing boxes :lol:
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Re: Fleam

Post by FRJ » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:16 am

Thanks Lee.
I was wondering if you were familiar with Borwick. I'm glad you have something like these. ::tu::
I'm also glad you didn't "fleam" yourself with the spring action one. ::woot::

These are pretty cool. I'm impressed with them. ::nod::
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Re: Fleam

Post by SteelMyHeart85420 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:31 am

Fascinating. Great cutlery skills being used to make tools for bloodletting. There's a lot to learn about these sharp things in general. ::td::

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