Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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Some of you may have seen my post to this effect in the Knife Parts Swap forum.

I decided to start a new thread here with regards to the specific project.

The goal is to take apart this old Tested 2308, thin the master blade down, remove the tapered center liner, fabricate a new full length liner and reassemble the knife like a Camillus 72 pattern "whittler".

The end goal is to have a thinner, lighter knife - and a subtle factory custom.

To begin, I will post some before shots of the knife in question.
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On the digital scale...pre-work, it weighs 1.32 oz
On the digital scale...pre-work, it weighs 1.32 oz
side shot. this knife has been taken apart before by me, to replace the pivot pins awhile back. I wasn't happy with the way it went back together. So, I will now get a chance to correct my mistakes...
side shot. this knife has been taken apart before by me, to replace the pivot pins awhile back. I wasn't happy with the way it went back together. So, I will now get a chance to correct my mistakes...
note one secondary blade is broken, however, there is enough of a nail nick to still open it. In effort to keep this customization as "original" as possible, I will opt to keep this blade intact.
note one secondary blade is broken, however, there is enough of a nail nick to still open it. In effort to keep this customization as "original" as possible, I will opt to keep this blade intact.
yeah, its a Case Tested, alright...
yeah, its a Case Tested, alright...
a somewhat cheesy epoxy handle patch I did. I added ebony sanding dust to epoxy and did this patch. When I got the knife off ebay, someone had used a cream colored epoxy to do a prior patch, which I removed. I don't really like my patch job, but in person it is much less noticeable than it is here.
a somewhat cheesy epoxy handle patch I did. I added ebony sanding dust to epoxy and did this patch. When I got the knife off ebay, someone had used a cream colored epoxy to do a prior patch, which I removed. I don't really like my patch job, but in person it is much less noticeable than it is here.
tipping the micrometer at roughly 3/8" on the master blade end
tipping the micrometer at roughly 3/8" on the master blade end
...and about 1/16" thicker or .4375 on the secondary end
...and about 1/16" thicker or .4375 on the secondary end
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Re: Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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Lookin' forward to seeing how you progress with this one, should be interesting! ::nod::
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Re: Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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OK...here is tonight's progress:
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dis-assembly went OK...
dis-assembly went OK...
weighing in the blade, pre-grinding .22 oz
weighing in the blade, pre-grinding .22 oz
the tapered liner, this will be replaced with a full length NS liner cut flush with springs
the tapered liner, this will be replaced with a full length NS liner cut flush with springs
with most of the rough grinding done. all the stock was taken off the pile side of the blade so as not to damage the tang stamp. weighing in a .16 oz and dropping...
with most of the rough grinding done. all the stock was taken off the pile side of the blade so as not to damage the tang stamp. weighing in a .16 oz and dropping...
the beginnings of the new liner. this was cut from an older German corkscrew knife's liners I had laying around.
the beginnings of the new liner. this was cut from an older German corkscrew knife's liners I had laying around.
a cheap solution to "finish" the open end of the master blade's spring...this was an old blade I had lying around. It will remain in the open position and be ground flush with the end of the bolsters. I heated the blade red hot prior to grinding to soften the metal. I opted for this solution so that I would not modify the original frame or springs in any way. If I ever come across some really nice Tested blades with a bad frame I want the option to swap out at some point in the future.
a cheap solution to "finish" the open end of the master blade's spring...this was an old blade I had lying around. It will remain in the open position and be ground flush with the end of the bolsters. I heated the blade red hot prior to grinding to soften the metal. I opted for this solution so that I would not modify the original frame or springs in any way. If I ever come across some really nice Tested blades with a bad frame I want the option to swap out at some point in the future.
the almost fully profiled new liner weighs in at .08 oz
the almost fully profiled new liner weighs in at .08 oz
initial test fitting: the blades all open and close fine, with a little snap. however, this old knife has seen better days and both the blade tangs and the springs are pretty well worn.
initial test fitting: the blades all open and close fine, with a little snap. however, this old knife has seen better days and both the blade tangs and the springs are pretty well worn.
another pre-assembly mock up.
another pre-assembly mock up.
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OK well tomorrow is another day -

Hope to get this all finished up over the weekend. I am still trying to think of ways to improve on this job. One of my biggest faults is trying to get it all put back together as fast as possible. I admit that this tendency has caused lackluster results on some past projects, but I am learning to pace myself.

One thing I do regret on this job already is that the blades are so worn down. The result is that the frame looks full of air and it seems likely to trap a lot of dust in the pocket. If the master blade was more full and longer it would really fill out the frame nicely. Also, the one broken blade is not pleasing to the eye either. I think there would be enough room in this frame for both of the secondary blades to be fitted in this fashion with very little modification to their original profile.

I might go ahead and get a cheap Frost or Rough Rider whittler and try this exercise again to see if the secondary blades could be made to pivot into each other from opposite ends. I think as long as I used a sunken center liner there would be enough room. I also have an older dotted 6383 that might be the next "victim"...it is not in good shape, but the blades are much fuller than this old '08.
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Re: Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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Nice work. I am like you, sometimes I am in too much of a hurry to put thing back together. It's taken alot of time to build up the patience to just go slow and methodical.

Looking forward to seeing the end product.
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Re: Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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Well - good news and bad news.

I was putting the pins in tonight when I decided this probably is a project I will opt not to "complete".

I did get the knife predominantly pinned back together and was preparing for final finishing and grinding the excess stock left on the new liner I made flush with the rest of the frame. However - I decided to put the brakes on this, photo-graph it as is, and then set the project aside. Here is why:

1. The knife when closed has too much "open space" in the frame as I alluded to last night. In the pocket this thing will fill up with dust, sand and everything else.
2. The blades, being as they are, contribute greatly to this open space in the frame. I don't have any extra blades for this pattern, and as such I think it is an exercise in futility to actually pin this together with a broken blade in it.
3. While I was doing my preliminary fit-ups, I tested it as a two blade, with one spring and the new center liner / spacer. That is the way I am going to end up finishing this. Then I will set the original center liner, extra spring and blade tang aside for future projects.

This old knife was just too far gone to really rely on for EDC in this current 72-style configuration, which is what I wanted to do. I always have my eye out for 08 pattern whittlers and I feel that someday I will find another, more complete and tight donor knife and try this project again.

In the meantime, I will post for history's sake my "Camillus 72-style Case 08 whittler" - FWIW

In my opinion, this knife pattern would be a great candidate for manufacture as a 72-style stockman/whittler. Preliminary measures show it coming in slightly lighter than the original configuration, and def. a little thinner and sleeker in the pocket.

If anyone has any project 08's for sale let me know what condition and how much. I would like to try this project again with a better knife to start with.

Thanks.
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tipping the scales about .05 of an oz lighter than the original. I think I would have ended up shaving another .02 off by the time I got it to a final finish state
tipping the scales about .05 of an oz lighter than the original. I think I would have ended up shaving another .02 off by the time I got it to a final finish state
a shot of the inside, with new liner and blades reconfigured.
a shot of the inside, with new liner and blades reconfigured.
The 72-style config of a Case 08 pattern, mark side, blades open
The 72-style config of a Case 08 pattern, mark side, blades open
same, pile side
same, pile side
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Re: Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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Nice job ::tu::
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Re: Putting a Case Tested 2308 on a "diet"

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tjmurphy wrote:Nice job ::tu::

thanks! this was a fun project.
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